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bonsoir,
il est fin ce FD !!!

j'ai vue que il y a beaucoup de reaction sur mon topic. Mon français n'est pas si bon pour comprendre tous que vous disez ici. un de mes amis m'aident de temps en temps avec la translation du néerlandais à anglais. et il parle aussi un peu de français. donc il va m'aider de repondre sur tous vos questions.
 

la belle fille à côte de la voiture etais un homme dans le passé...
 
       

This will come under the right vent, just for looks.
On the leftside we have the CF piece where the motor is at, so it looks more the same on the right side went you look through the vents.

I'ts time to rebuild the doorpanels.
The doorpanels i using are secondhanded. So the car remains complete, and I doesn't have to drive without panels all winter.
 Demounted some stuff.
 

 
Started taking off the leather. awefull job  
 
The 16cm FOCAL speaker is taking approximately the same place where the original speak is.

In the meanwhile , I let the rings mild nicely.
 

 
 
I milded some MDF wooden rings to tighten on the doorpanel.
 
 


 
To lock the speakers tight I made a extra alu plate of 6mm thick.
Here I can use the screws that came with the FOCALS. These are special screws that click-in the grill.
 
 

 
This is an seperate little cap that goes on top. This model will be editted more.
This will come nice when it's finished.
 

Designerdepartment going at full speed  
Worked on the ring where the speaker goes in, more smooth now.
Step by step, till it workes out to something he likes;
 

 
 


On picture, maybe it doesn't look so good, but IRL it looks fine. The forms i made also come back in the original panel. So it's more styled this way.
 
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Here a couple of pics of the original doorpanel, to compare more easy.
 
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And this is what it's going to be. The door, on the speaker, gained 2cm more to the inside of the car. This is what I had to do to get the speaker in there in a good way.
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The seperate polyester cap, that goes over the speaker, will come in silver, like the trim.
This will contrast with the rest.
 
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Picture with the grill.
 
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If I look at this all, I think it doesn't contrast to much with the lines, shape of the original panel.
 
Has to be rubbed and finished some more.
On the backside of the panel, maybe there will come a little light, that shines when the door is opened. Partially to fill up the big piece.

In the meanwhile I made a whole into the doors platework, behind the speaker.
You can see the windowglider. Just nog touching the speaker.

 
Made some more parts, to fill up the other wholes.
 

 

 
On the background, there's a alu plate of 4mm thick. Very hard and strong.
In the middle you can see 2 Carbonkevlar parts. I made em as thin als possible .
On the foreground you see 4 little rings I made, to screw the doorpanel extra tight.
 
If you look to the second on the right, there's a little rubber he pasted on. On the place where he screwed it. This to prevent resonance.
 

 
 

 
On the picture you see a little pole picking out. That's MEGA IMPORTANT.
Behind the speaker, there'll be another screw, so we can attach it even more in the middle.

 
 
Everything mounted:
 

 


 

This won't be the end of the door. I has to make some tiny wholes airtight, but that won't go untill the has all the material to fill up the sound.
All I makes, will be filled up with this material. What exactly I going to use, he's not sure. we'ill keep u informed.
 
As you can see, I putting a lot of work into all this. And more work is coming up so the sound won't be lost...
 
I think this is a type of work, that is underestimated be many people. But the work will pay of in the end, that's what we are sure of...

As you can see, het got the disc in there again. Disced a ditch in there so I gots some place to get the overflowingin leather away.
 
The alu and the pole I got on there so it all stays equal when it gets overlayed.



you see, the plates can be rattled off.

 

 
 
as you guys can see, the bottom part is already painted black, you all know what happens then...
 
indeed, CARBON TIME
 
The bottomsides of the doorpanels will have to be done in CARBON FIBRE.
 
So a dificcult object to get in the Carbon fibre. But we must admit, it's done nicely..
Many time was put into preparation the prevent the CF - overlay to got wrong at any place.
 

 

 

This annoying little side was one of the many things that could go wrong.
 

 
Also, I was satisfied to get the little lamp in there. makes the piece a bit more interesting then one big lumb piece.
 

 
This is the ditch I disced into the panel. For those who don't get the picture. When it's all done, the upperside of the panel will be overlayed in leather. Then I needs a little space the get rid of the too much leather.
To get a nicer finishing off
 
You see on this pic that everything at the bottom is in CF..
 
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Now the big work is to get it all nice and flat. Put some more layers of epoxy on there till it's all nice and smooth.
so, lots of work and patience...

This is the 3th layer of epoxy.
Rubb it all down flat and equal everywhere, and then another 4th layer of epoxy.
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After firmly rubbin' the epoxy, I added another layer op expoxy.  
Maybe it's not so visible on the pic, but it's quit flat already.
4th layer of epoxy.
 
Now it's important to rub the last layer good. Start with an 800 and end with a 2000.
 
I also found the same black leather to cover the panel like the original one.


 

sans deconner c'est vraiment hallucinnant de voir ce genre d'install, esthetiquement ca frise la perfection
si Sarko voit ca, robolop risque de passer Ministre de l'Integration  
 
encore bravo

j'adore !  
 
et puis j'ai plein de questions (désolé pour les non angliscistes !)
 
Robolop,  
it's an awesome job, you've made ....
 
I've fews question on your CF pieces :
 
-how do you place the raw carbon fiber on your pieces ? do you cut several piece and place them properly to fit perfectly together or is-it one-pieced made ?
 
-after final sanding with 2000, do you "only" apply polish or you add a bright varnish ?
 
-how looks the CF pieces after some month or years of ageing in a car (with thermal cycles and water ) ? is it like polyester which is cracking and swelling, and even sometimes "sweating"?
 
-epoxy layers seems to be applied with a brush, have you ever tried to spray it for a better finish (like in industry with a primer spray-gun) ?
 
 
give us more please  
 

 
lesson covering parts with carbon:  
1. paint the parts black  
2. cover the part with a layor of epoxy  
3. immediately cover the wet epoxy with carbonfibre and press firmly  
4. let it dry  
5. cover with 4 layors of epoxy untill everything is smooth  
 
it's that easy ... or not?  
 
         

 
it seems too easy to be real... I'll try for fun on next summer !

8O  

just  8O  8O  8O  8O